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Just because it's the first thing we see in game doesn't mean that was the first encounter they had. His first act as councilor was absolutely not to threaten him. And what did it get him? Excuse Garrosh all you want for not being the one behind the poison, but that would sure as fuck dissuade me from challenging him to a 'fair' fight, lest there be another convenient 'accident.' Carine made the choice to fight like an orc. He, along with the other leaders, was there at the end was we brought down Garrosh which implies to me he was fighting with or near us the whole time else how could he have arrived so quickly? But that's pure conjecture. (So, the siege stuff and not being present in Siege.I don't really have an argument for, as I suspect that has much more to do with in-game things and level/fight design than it does story.

I personally would have loved to see some positive character development for Garrosh, turning him from a cocky and reckless asshole into a calm, but threatening when angered military expert. Cairne is often a very level-headed and wise leader, and Garrosh was said to have respected Cairne as a strong warrior, so I feel like he could have been a great advisor which Garrosh would more likely listen to. Cairne may still not have liked Garrosh, but I don't think he'd be pushed to the edge of wanting to challenge him in combat with the intentions of killing him. I'd rather prefer the hypothetical situation of the druid meeting not getting ambushed by orcs of the Twilight Hammer, framing Garrosh.

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There might even be several coups or others challenging Cairne to Mak'Gora, it just overall would still split the Horde apart just like it did when Garry won and assumed full command of the Horde. To most of the orcish warriors, Garrosh was a hero and an inspiration to them, and watching him get killed and the Warchief position taken by a non-orc would no doubt upset them heavily. I can try to theorycraft here: I imagine if Cairne had won, it'd still be an uneasy atmosphere in Orgrimmar.

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That is what the trial was about, it wasn't actually about Garrosh.

But not anymore, stability is valued above everything else and if you try to take the mantle of the warchief you no longer get an honourable death, you get disgrace, dishonour and bring shame to your entire bloodline. You backstabbed and murdered your way to become the true warchief? That is fitting for a warchief. Before what Garrosh did wouldn't even be a crime. It's about showing the horde, that 'This is not the way we do it anymore'. It's not about being nice to him, it's not about justice or any shit like that. Having Garrosh stand trial is as many people seem to forget. It would confirm the stereotype of trolls being untrustworthy bastard leeching of the glory of the horde. But this is also the Horde, trolls are not well liked as it is and a sneaky ass troll sneaking up and killing Garrosh after a battle would raise all kinds of hell within the ranks of the horde. If Garrosh had died in battle nobody would object it is the way of the horde, you murder your way to the top. The horde values dying in battle, hell there is a clan that sacrifices part of their humanity (Orcity?) just so they can experience their death twice. Sargeras - A Area 52 - H Bleeding Hollow - H Tichondrius - H ChinaД«ecause dying in battle is fine. Stormscale - H Sylvanas - A Aszune - A Bronzebeard - H Americas Tired of seeing Art? Filter your r/wow experience with this guide!.Murloc Mondays (New players) Reset Recruitment Midweek Mending Tanking Thursday Firepower Friday (DPS) Saturday Achievement and Loot Thread Skirmish Sundays (PvP) Blizzard SubredditsДiablo - Starcraft - Hearthstone - Heroes of the Storm - Overwatch - WC3 - Classic WoW - Mystery -ДЇrequently Asked Questions about ShadowlandsДЇrequently Asked Questions. The Undermine Journal - useful resource for goldmakers./r/classicwowtbc - World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade./r/classicwow - World of Warcraft: Classic./r/transmogrification - show us your style./r/woweconomy - goldmaking discussion & theory./r/wownoob - if you are a noob or want to help a noob.WoW Related Discords Shadowlands 9.1.5 is Live! Welcome to /r/wow, a subreddit about the video game World of Warcraft ! Chat

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